Programming language for an app that needs to be running forever

Programming language for an app that needs to be running forever

I'm upgrading an app that registers the time employees arrive and leave the office. I would like not to install this app into one of our current servers, which are somewhat important, beacuse I would have to leave a session open and i'd like to keep things separated. So all I have is cheap, cheap hardware. Basically a 500MHz, 64MB RAM Debian Lenny with nothing but the app, and MySQL database to store the information, oh yes, and i'ts inside a stove.

Currently the app is written in Java. Just a console program with a Dilbert's face ascii art on it asking for the employee's ID. The actual line, that does the 'waiting' is :

id = cin.nextInt();  

When the first employee arrives monday morning and types he's id, about 40 hours of no usage since last employee left, the app crashes. Cant remember the actual exception thrown.

So my question is: Is there a nice way to loop a Java app forever ? Or maybe a better question is, which programming language is better for this task ?

I guess it would seem obvious at first not to use big 'ol java on such poor system, but lets just say, I kinda like Java.

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Edit: Thanks for all your replies. However I do all the try/catching there is. I'm the problem is an Error the app can not recover from such as OutOfMemoryError.

The actual code looks something like :

static boolean start() {      Scanner cin = new Scanner(System.in);      int id;       try{          id = cin.nextInt();          doStuff( id );          return true;      }catch (Exception e){          //which would trap all recoverable exceptions          System.out.println("Something is wrong. Try again.");          return false;                     }  }    public static void main(String ... args){      boolean first = true;      while(true) {          if(first) showDilbert();          first = start();      }  }  

I'm sorry I did not pay more attention to the actual exception, but I thought Java would be discarded quite faster from the hardware description.

Answer by Justin Niessner for Programming language for an app that needs to be running forever

while(true)  {  }  

or

for(;;)  {  }  

Should both loop infinitely and cause the application to continue running. You'll have to add some kind of code to make sure that your app doesn't peg the resources of the machine your running on though.

Answer by mikera for Programming language for an app that needs to be running forever

There's nothing inherently wrong with Java for this task - although your machine specs are pretty limiting and I expect that memory consumption is your main issue - the JVM alone probably uses up most of your available RAM.

The technique I would use in Java to keep something running is:

while (true) {    try {      // do stuff here        Thread.sleep(1); // sleep a bit just to be nice to other processes    } catch (Throwable t) {      t.printStackTrace();    }  }  

This way any exceptions get caught and you will see the errors, but the app will keep running.

Of course there is a big caveat emptor here - if you keep running after a critical exception and trash your data by having the code in an unstable state, you only have yourself to blame :-)

Answer by Chris for Programming language for an app that needs to be running forever

As everyone has said, there's no reason your app can't run forever. Well, nuclear holocaust would bring it to a screeching halt, but Dilbert and his tie would be the least of your concerns at that point.

Have you considered using an embedded system? You're using a general purpose computer and OS to do only one thing. It would be more economical and a great experience to implement this using Arduino or even some GP-DSP like Analog Devices' Blackfin. You can still program in C/C++ and even have an embedded OS such as ucLinux. Much much cheaper, and rock solid.

Answer by Greg Hewgill for Programming language for an app that needs to be running forever

Do you think perhaps that the input to your program is not in fact an integer, and you're getting an InputMismatchedException or something? Maybe over the weekend somebody hit a key that wasn't a number, and then when the first person on Monday types their number and presses Enter, it's got some extra cruft before it. Blammo, exception.

Answer by Mark Peters for Programming language for an app that needs to be running forever

The simplest way I know of to give your Java application high availability is to just launch it from a bash script in a loop. Maybe put a sleep in there so that if your app goes into a state where it can't launch it doesn't try a million times a second. Something like this:

#!/bin/bash  while [ 1 ]  do          java ... MyApp              sleep 5  done  

Doesn't matter WHAT happens in your JVM then...internal error, out of memory exception, JVM bug (they happen!) whatever. It's still going to boot right back up 5 seconds later.

Obviously this doesn't preclude steps to handle things cleanly within your application. This is the fallback.

Answer by Dustin Getz for Programming language for an app that needs to be running forever

Are you trying to write a time entry kiosk yourself?

This problem is well solved, I'm sure you can find an affordable commercial solution.

Answer by Will Hartung for Programming language for an app that needs to be running forever

There's absolutely no reason your program needs to maintain an open connection to the database. You can get by simply opening the connection, doing your work, and closing it every time the user enters their ID.

The truth is that the exception that you are getting is vitally important as to why it's crashing.

Your program should be little more than:

public class Go {      public static void main(String args[]) {          while(true) {              try {                  String userID = getUserId();                  Connection con = getConnection();                  processUserId(connection, userId);                  con.close();              catch(Exception e) {                  logException(e);              }          }      }  }  

If you're getting exceptions you need to hunt down and prevent those exceptions. Save MySQL going out to lunch, there's no reason you should be getting any exceptions at all in this program. And if MySQL goes to lunch, getting a new Connection each time solves that problem once MySQL is back up and running.

And, no, getting a new Connection each time is not "slow", unless you happen to be processing 100s or 1000s of employees per second.

Answer by fpmurphy1 for Programming language for an app that needs to be running forever

I would suggest that you write the application in something like C rather than Java.

Answer by benzebuth for Programming language for an app that needs to be running forever

and what about migrating your app to a web based service, a simple html page will do the interface. Run a apache server behind it, that will handle your scripts (written in perl of course ;) ), and connection with bdd.

this is very light, reliable, and will run as long as you wish

Answer by emory for Programming language for an app that needs to be running forever

I would suggest you edit your code as below. This will not make the program run longer, but you will know why it is crashing. Only then can you fix the problem.

Is this homework?

static boolean start() {      Scanner cin = new Scanner(System.in);      int id;       try{          id = cin.nextInt();          doStuff( id );          return true;      }catch (Exception e){          //which would trap all recoverable exceptions          System.out.println("Something is wrong. Try again.");          return false;                     }catch(Throwable e){          // Add this.          System . err . println ( e ) ; // come back to SO with this          e . printStackTrace ( ) ; // come back to SO with this          System . exit ( 1 ) ;      }  }    public static void main(String ... args){      boolean first = true;      while(true) {          if(first) showDilbert();          first = start();      }  }  

Answer by OscarRyz for Programming language for an app that needs to be running forever

Programming language for an app that needs to be running forever

Answer: Java , you just have to be careful about the code.

Alternative answer: Any language will do, you just have to be careful about the code

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